Is Vista's Australian pricing a rip-off?

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Dan Warne22 January 2007, 1:02 AM

You could save between $54 and $217 by mail-ordering Vista from the US rather than buying it here.


You could save between $54 and $217 by mail-ordering Vista from the US rather than buying it here.

I reached this depressing conclusion by analysing Vista's pricing in detail, first comparing both the straight US dollar "estimated retail price" converted to Australian dollars, as well as an adjusted price, factoring in the profit margin Microsoft Australia previously applied to XP's Australian pricing.

A few back-of-napkin calculations showed that while XP was 1.66 times more expensive in Australia than in the US, Vista is up to a whopping 1.91 times more expensive, depending on the version.

So what's in it for Aussies to buy it locally, other than supporting our industry? And why is Australian Vista pricing jacked up so much compared to XP? I asked Microsoft Australia's Windows boss, Jeff Putt.

After weeks of deliberation, Putt responded on behalf of Microsoft that the Vista RRP was a guide for retailers only; that it was more expensive to do business in Australia and the Vista costs had been calculated on the same basis as XP; that the base price for Vista is the same worldwide once exchange rates are applied and that the US Estimated Retail Price (ERP) doesn't include tax, while the Australian one does.

The last point is more than fair - but doesn't explain away the fact that Australians can order a copy of Vista from the States without paying US sales tax, while also taking advantage of the Australian government's policy of GST-free personal importation of products below $1,000.

Putt also argued that "There are many benefits to buying from local retailers including local product exchange, local market warranty conditions, local returns and added-value services."

We asked what these "value added services" for Australians were and Putt said he meant, for example, a computer shop installing the software for customers.

Cost to mail order Vista from the US


US ERP

P&H

Converted to $AUD

Saving over Australian RRP

Business Full

$299

$12

$404

$161

Business Upg

$199

$12

$274

$105

Home Premium Full

$239

$12

$326

$129

Home Premium Upg

$159

$12

$222

$77

Home Basic Full

$199

$12

$274

$111

Home Basic Full Upg

$99.95

$12

$146

$54

Ultimate Full

$399

$12

$534

$217

Ultimate Full Upg

$259

$12

$352

$143

Using $1.30 as the US-AUD exchange rate. Postage and handling cost sourced from emsoftwaredeal.com.


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William K:

America gets it for free!

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

tin:

Yep... I went to the website they were giving away copies at, and quickly discovered that only if I lived in the US could I have a freebie.
My favourite name for calling MS lately is "Jerks".

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Wes:

A lot of things are like that anyway and that is the reason why I buying all my books from the US. It turns out to be far cheaper even when you include shipping.


29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jun:

That's one of the many reasons I moved on to a Mac. And I'll NEVER use Microsoft products again.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo:

That's one of the reasons you moved to mac? To save a couple of hundred bucks. While this is debatable, Macs aren't cheap. Quite the contrary.

Macs are about quality and simplicity, not price.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

*sigh* Macs ARE cheap. Compare a similar product with the same quality.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Steve, Norfolk, UK:

Got a (misguided?!) friend who has just spent £700 on a Packard Bell. Unwrapped it and found that he's got to take the keyboard back as one of the buttons is stuck down. Has Vista preinstalled. For the same money, he could have had an Intel iMac, which he almost certainly wouldn't have had to take back and this would have included the OS disks, rater than having to purchase them for an exorbitant sum. Factor this in and the Mac comes out some £100 cheaper for a far better machine. Perhaps it's me but Packard Bell seems to have taken over where Time/Tiny left off.

29 February 2008, 8:37 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

Yep, books and music CD's are much cheaper buying overseas even including the shipping.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Potoroo:

Even the US prices are a rip-off when you consider that most copies of Vista will be OEM and M$ sell them for far, far less and still make a profit.

And M$ wonder why smart people will wait a year until they can get their pirated copy of SP1 with no activation (what I do on MY system is none of their damn business).

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

linux anyone?:

i think you speak for a rather scarily large portion of the geek population on here in cyber space my friend. i wouldn't even touch vista with somebody else's hands before at least SP1, ive had a play with the RTM version, and its raw to saw the least.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

dajashby:

If Dan Warne kno